Today, Emma talks with Jeremy Shapiro, the research director at the European Council on Foreign Relations. Emma and Jeremy discuss the end of U.S. unipolarity and what that means for the American ethos, and how potential Democratic candidates are thinking about building a foreign policy that aims to resonate emotionally with the American people.

Emma and Jeremy’s discussion is part of the New Visions for Grand Strategy Project, a collection of essays, videos, and podcasts in which out-of-the box thinkers discuss the future of U.S. foreign policy.

Links:

• Emma Ashford, First Among Equals: U.S. Foreign Policy for a Multipolar World (Yale University Press, 2025)
• Jeremy Shapiro, “The Bully’s Pulpit: Finding Patterns in Trump’s Use of Military Force,” European Council on Foreign Relations, May 8, 2025
• Jeremy Shapiro, “Eat, Pray, Govern: The Search for Meaning in Democrats’ Foreign Policy” in New Visions for Grand Strategy, edited by Emma Ashford and Nevada Joan Lee,The Stimson Center. Washington, D.C., USA