In this episode of UN Necessary,recorded on 22 January 2025 in New York, hosts Nudhara Yusuf and Daniel Perell sit down with Stephen Heintz, President and CEO of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and Dr. Richard Ponzio, Director of the Global Governance, Justice, and Security Program where he also co-directs the Global Governance Innovation Network.
As the world grapples with rising geopolitical tensions, democratic backsliding, and the challenge of global governance reform, our guests reflect on the outcomes of the UN’s Summit of the Future and the broader trajectory of multilateralism. Heintz and Ponzio discuss the Pact for the Future, the need for a new logic in international cooperation, and the role of civil society in pushing institutional change.
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Episodes to date:
- Episode 1: Multilateralism 2.0 with Maria Fernanda Espinosa
- Episode 2: Do it for the Plot with Ishaan Shah
- Episode 3: The World at a Crossroads with Maria Joao Rodriguez
- Episode 4: The UN Reforms We Need with David Passarelli
- Episode 5: Something’s Going to Give with Natalie Samarasinghe
- Episode 6: Dialogue is more than talking points with Felipe Paullier
- Episode 7: A legacy of change with Carlos Alvarado Quesada
- Episode 8: The UN’s Next Chapter with Stephen Heintz and Richard Ponzio
